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mos6502 |
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Member Posts: 29 | reViSiT completely crashed my host twice this evening, both times erasing a bunch of stuff I was doing despite trying to save every 5 minutes. reBUS is very noisy, adding a new layer of noise every time I add a new instance. All the extra legwork involved in setting up bunches of channels and MIDI notes to trigger patterns... using external programs to audition samples... putting up with cracks and pops almost every time I start playback, despite every other piece of software performing flawlessly under current driver settings... being unable to play samples in the sample & instrument lists, without having to wait 5-10 seconds between each note (and Caps Lock audition mode doesn't seem to work at all)... putting up with even more popping and clicking that wasn't there before when I enable a volume envelope, even when I go for a smooth fadeout... and finally, having to disable multi-core CPU capability in my host because if I don't, if skips beats and pops even more frequently and won't play ball with the rest of my software... Every time I use reViSiT I feel like I'm doing battle just to get everything working properly. I hate to say it but I'm about ready to give up on the thing. -Owen | ||
chrisnash |
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Developer Posts: 746 Location: England | I'm sorry to hear about your difficulties. Somehow, SONAR seems to present reViSiT with problems that just don't exist in other hosts. I'm convinced this is because of its WDM foundation and the way it interacts with VST plugins. VST support, for example, works through a DirectX plugin wrapper - even in v8, this wrapper is still present, though Cakewalk have tried to make it look like there's native VST support. For me reViSiT also only works in ASIO mode, with multi-processing disabled - and even then it's not always smooth. It wouldn't surprise me if their ASIO support also worked through a wrapper to WDM. To date, it's been very difficult for me to do any amount of debugging in SONAR, since the demo version expired after 30-days and then became useless. Cakewalk, however, have now very kindly provided me with a full copy of SONAR 8 PE, to help me debug more easily - and I may now have a contact in the company who might be able to get answers to technical questions. I can only hope that you decide not to give up on reViSiT just yet, and perhaps can even spare some time to help me quash these bugs, as I learn what exactly is misbehaving. All the best, Chris | ||
chrisnash |
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Developer Posts: 746 Location: England | Okay, I've spent most of the day in SONAR, working on improved compatibility and performance with fairly dramatic results:
As a result of all this, the version of reViSiT I am working on now, otherwise appears to be very stable and performing well, in SONAR - working with Use Multiprocessing Engine enabled, in WDM/KS, MME and ASIO driver modes, with no pops or clicks, even with a latency of 1.0 msec (WDM/KS, 44 samples, 2 buffers). Naturally, mileage varies depending on your sound drivers. For example, these results were taken with the newest drivers (v1.1.1) for my Mackie Onyx Satellite - previously, this soundcard barely worked with SONAR. So, if you can just hang in there for a week or two, I hope to produce a new version of reViSiT that should address the issues you're facing. All the best,
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mos6502 |
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Member Posts: 29 | If you couldn't tell, I was a tad miffed at last post :-) Tends to happen when I lose good ideas to fickle technology, I hope I wasn't too discouraging. I'm glad you were able to get a copy of Sonar and possibly Cakewalk's ear to some extent. Sounds like you're already making headway, and interestingly I hadn't even whined about the lack of WDM support - but if that's slated to work in the next release it would be welcome news. I tend to get equal latencies (about 8.7 msec, I need that or better for the type of stuff we normally do in the studio) out of WDM and ASIO driver modes, but on rare occasions noticed minor benefits to WDM in my configuration. It really wasn't enough to make a fuss about but options are good. So... I'll hang tight until the next release, check it over once it's out and if there's anything specific you need from me before or after that point I'd be happy to assist. I can provide system and software specs if needed, not sure if that's helpful or not in this case. Best of luck and thanks, Owen Edited by mos6502 2009-05-22 12:02 AM | ||
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